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both of them are the same government bill

and thats why the bonuses shrank. all this compliance costs money and the money comes out of what they give us

convenient framing that. by that logic they could cap the cashout at a fiver and you"d still call it an improvement because the wagering is lower

so the rule that was supposed to help players made bonuses worse. shocking. absolutely nobody could have predicted this every single time. they announce something to protect us and six months later were worse off than before and the same people are back on telly explaining how its a win for...

so french racing is a product and kempton is a culture..right

coming back to is the horse racing exemption. why does that get protected. genuinely explain it to me because i cannot come up with a reason that isn't just who knows who. a bloke losing his wages on the 2:40 at kempton is doing the same thing as a bloke losing it on a slot, the only difference...

ok yeah 40% FORTY!! so i put a tenner in and they take four quid off the top before i've even spun anything and this is the same lot who spent two years telling us it was all about protecting vulnerable people. affordability checks, bank statements, prove you can afford it. now suddenly they've...

closing thought and then im leaving it. i've argued for two years that the checks are the problem. after reading this properly i think the problem is they've built something that watches everybody and protects nobody. you get the friction of being monitored and none of the benefit of anyone...

@5.o.2 well thats the bit thats been nagging at me and you put it better than i could. i keep arguin about whether they should be allowed to look. they've been looking the whole time. the argument is only ever about what they do with it. which makes a fair bit of what i've been saying for two...

yeah ok thats actually helpful. one is checking everyone who crosses a number, other is ignoring the people your own system is screaming about. still feels like the same instinct behind both tho. build a system, dont resource it, tick the box

right so this has been nagging at me since it came out end of last month and im posting it because i genuinely don't know what i think anymore. as you might heard commission announced petfre gibraltar paying £900,000 over social responsibility failures. the headline bit: a customer got flagged...

100% mate. it used to just work and you didn't have to understand the economics of it to enjoy it. now apparently you do going to try a couple of sessions on betway and betfair this week and see if the product difference is actually noticeable or if it's all just the same compressed industry

so the worse sessions since april aren't variance. the game literally changed and i noticed it without knowing that's what i was noticing and the government explicitly expected this to happen?

@slotking by paused product launches - what kind of products are we talking? new game types? live casino expansion? or else?

four year bet365 customer. never really had complaints. decent platform, decent game selection, always paid out without fuss. but since the start of this year something feels off. like welcome offer situation first: they've switched to the "10 days of free spins" thing where you deposit a tenner...

ok that landed

if there is i haven't found it. wich is probably part of the problem. we accept it and grumble and nothing changes

none of that makes thes popups less insulting

wait so the checks are being avoided by the people they''re meant to catch and applied to the people they 're not meant for

but i dont WANT to go offshore. jeez i just want toplay on a legal site with proper licence without being treated like a suspect for depositing forty quid